[08:35, 02/06/2022] Gernot Redeker: Morning. What perphenazine hydrochloride/water-based perphenazine (WBP) dose can I use on a big kudu bull in a boma? [08:38, 02/06/2022] Ean van den Berg: Hi Gernot, I have used up to 40mg. I still prefer Acuphase even though it is more expensive [08:49, 02/06/2022] Marius : I agree, Acuphase is superior, as Ean said. [08:53, 02/06/2022] Werner Rogl: Marius & Ean what advantages did you see with kudu bulls in a boma by using Acuphase rather than WBP? [08:56, 02/06/2022] Ean van den Berg: Hi Werner, they are just a lot more relaxed and calm in my opinion. Takes longer to have effect, approx. 3 hours, but if combined with azaperone it works great [09:01, 02/06/2022] Marius: Hi Werner. I've had the opportunity to use both extensively over the years at auctions and for me there is undoubtedly a better calming effect and relaxation especially with people moving around and observing animals on auction. More recently, I used WBP again on a few bulls to evaluate the effect, and I still prefer Acuphase and azaperone on loading into bomas and they then overlap nicely to keep bulls calm. I have also used diazepam in feed the first few days but not critical if the other two are used together. [09:08, 02/06/2022] Andy Fraser: Are you using V-Tech or Kyron's WBP, Ean? [09:09, 02/06/2022] Andy Fraser: Marius, what dosages of both drugs did you like? [09:10, 02/06/2022] Ean van den Berg: Hi Andy, currently Kyron's [09:15, 02/06/2022] Andy Fraser Thanks. I've found V-Tech's superior and more stable once opened, but it's still not Acuphase [09:36, 02/06/2022] Dawid: I also prefer Acuphase. [12:09, 02/06/2022 Johan Kriek: I have used WBP in kudu and roan bulls (50 mg) with great results. They were in bomas for 8 weeks. One was darted again after 10 days, and the rest were calm and picking up condition. I have stopped using Acuphase. Kudu photo in JK pens [12:53, 02/06/2022] Nico du Preez: Johan. Which mg/ml are you using? And V-Tech or Kyron? [12:55, 02/06/2022] Johan Kriek: 100mg/ ml (used Kyron and also V-Tech). I had 6 kudu bulls and 4 roan bulls in single pens (10m square). [10:11, 03/06/2022] Gernot: Morning Marius, what dosages did you use for azaperone and Acuphase?
