[2022/03/01, 06:09:50] Paul Reynolds: Good morning. Anyone using Neurotranq/ACP is springbok sedation? I heard that someone is giving it to clients, but I am not familiar with it. [2022/03/01, 06:14:10] Johan Kriek: Was used years ago. Haloperidol ( 5- 10 mg) would be my choice for springbok [2022/03/01, 06:56:45] Pierre Nel: Hennie Klopper - didn’t you mention a Stresnil/ Neurotranq combination for springbuck? [[2022/03/01, 08:59:08] Ockert Botha: Is Neurotranq still available? [2022/03/01, 09:07:22] Paul Reynolds : Not sure - I dont use it. I just saw the unmarked syringes and owner phoned the other vet to ask what it was. He just knows it’s to calm springbok. [2022/03/01, 09:15:06] Ockert Botha: Yes, that is that's why I asked. We have been trying to compound ACP without success [2022/03/01, 09:43:09] Hennie Klopper: I order ACP from V-Tech. It works well when you combine 50mg/ml azaperone with 10mg/ml ACP in a 50:50 mixture (that's in ml's combinations) Pierre, I use it in the darts. At mass capture, we inject the springbok 1ml each of this mixture and it calms them down quite well. [2022/03/01, 09:49:57] Paul Reynolds: And in HH (low opioid) combinations? Would it cause too heavy sedation? [2022/03/01, 11:05:54] Henry Labuschagne: Just beware of ACP in extreme weather conditions : it interferes with thermoregulation. [2022/03/01, 12:11:25] Bart Gazendam: Not sure if it works the same in springbok, but would also be cautious with breeding bulls for penile prolapse [2022/03/01, 14:26:58] Henry Labuschagne: In equids, it causes priapism. [2022/03/02, 07:25:24] Hennie Klopper: Morning Paul In sable, I've seen some that go very deep, especially when using HH with ACP/ azaperone, I don't give them any top-up if I've used it in the dart. In the dart I use HH regime with 0,2-0,3ml of ACP:azaperone mixture for springbok and for sable 0,5ml. [2022/03/02, 07:30:46] Hennie Klopper: Mass capture: 1ml Springbok 1,5-2ml sable, depending on effect, I do the first group that comes in and then adjust from there I have never had any penile prolapse/priaprism issues before. I use ACP + Domosedan when doing CEM swaps in stallions, also no problem thus far, but there's always a first for everything! [2022/03/02, 07:31:41] Hennie Klopper: I do agree with Henry, be careful when working in hot temperatures. [2022/03/02, 07:56:26] Paul Reynolds: Thanks a lot. Interesting to read everywhere someone trying different methods/mixes.