[11:30, 26/04/2022] Anndri Garrett: Good morning. I was asked for an opinion this morning on the following: A cattle farmer bought roan antelope in 2014. He got the nuclear and mitochondrial DNA results and animals were moved with a permit. He now wanted to sell some offspring and the tests came back as Hippotragus equinus koba hybrids (ie West African roan hybrids). The person helping him with the permits then asked to see the original test results for the parent stock: H. e. koba and H. e. koba hybrids. The problem is that the test result clearly stated that the animals belong to the clade permitted in South Africa. The farmer is totally uninformed and could not interpret the results himself. Apparently neither could the Nature Conservation person that issued the permit. Anybody ever got a H. e. koba test result in the past? Would you please check for me if that report also stated clearly that the animal belongs to the clade permitted in SA? Johan Kriek : Anndri, was both mitochondrial and nuclear testing done? [12:22, 26/04/2022] Hendrik Hansen: Any way around, mitochondrial or not, this H. e. koba is definitely not part of the group that is permitted in South Africa unless they are the only the roan on an existing farm, but with and no movement or trade at all. [12:22, 26/04/2022] Anndri Garrett: Cannot be the reason, because the animals tested H. e. koba on both mitochondrial RNA and nuclear DNA. [12:31, 26/04/2022] Andre Uys: Definitely not allowed.