11:38, 05/06/2022] Rob Jackson : Good morning, has anyone got a suggested field anaesthetic protocol for a giraffe with a dystocia of at least 24h standing. There is a report of hooves projecting from vulva, but awaiting confirmation. My thought would be a guarded prognosis. Thank you [11:38, 05/06/2022] David Pretorius: Thianil 2 mg plus medetomidine 5 mg. Wait 8-12 mins. You should be able to trip the animal or she will go down on her own. Consider adding butorphanol 20mg and ketamine 300mg to maintain the immobilisation. [11:40, 05/06/2022] Henry Labuschagne:: Use the low opioid or Hendrick Hansen protocol. Get the animals up and load on a recovery trailer. Work on her while she is standing. [11:42, 05/06/2022] David Pretorius: Have you done this while standing? [11:44, 05/06/2022] Henry Labuschagne: My 1st one I kept down - she died as the calf came out. I then did 2 while standing in trailer - they were all fine. [11:45, 05/06/2022] David Pretorius: Do you think the long downtime or positioning plays a role? Or was she perhaps too deep? [11:47, 05/06/2022] Rob Jackson: Thank you, I will keep you posted [11:59, 05/06/2022] Erik Verrynne: I also find that there is more space to manipulate the calf when she is standing. [12:01, 05/06/2022] Henry Labuschagne:: Long downtime is bad, and also difficult to monitor GA when she is down and you are working at the back, unless you have a skilled person at the head doing the monitoring. If she is standing at least you know she is still alive .It can be very easy or very difficult to do a dystocia. My last one which I did standing, took me about an hour to get the calf out and if she was not standing, she would have been dead. I also find that there is more space to manipulate the calf when she is standing
